Scam Dedi Report. Server.Trading.

We provider resell dedicated and VPS services to Asia region, and as 'Middle Men' here is some questions hope to get some tips/answer from hosting providers.

On Feb 2nd, due to out of stock, we submitted refund request.
On Feb 3rd, Got replied, no refund, restock in a week.
However, customer cannot wait for a week ( to be honest, can you wait for a week to get VPS setup? Fast deployment that is one of reason why we use VPS.)
Then, we request credit to the account on PhotonVPS. Got rejected.
On Feb 5th, services in-stock, but services were cancelled. NO REFUND, NO CREDIT, NO SERVICE. Free Money to PhotonVPS. Is this new scam?

Converstation between @Profuse-Jimmy @photonvps

"We should have more stock later this week"
-- Shouldn't display (not available ) if out of stock? or they just want to oversold for more profit? And since no warning regarding this, shouldn't provide any solution rather than pay you and waste me and my customer's time on waiting game?

"Allow one refund per account"
-- Is that a standard terms now?

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"You can choose to use them or not use them, but no refund/credit will be issued"

BUT on their TOS: photonvps.com/terms_conditions.html
3.6 Refund Policy Customer has thirty (30) days beginning from the date of first payment to a trial period of Services. Within the initial thirty (30) days period, the customer has the right to cancel or demand a full refund if customer is not satisfied with the services. However, upon exceeding the initial thirty (30) days period, the customer will no longer be entitled to any refund and they will be billed until a cancellation is incited. Section 3.6 Refund Policy DOES NOT apply to any terms under Section 5 enforcement. If Customers account is suspended within the initial thirty (30) days for any reasons in violation of this Agreement the Customer waives the right to any refund under this section.
-- This is no longer valid?, what happend to 30 days refund policy?

So, Any advise to avoid company like PhotonVPS? DO NOT BUY IT!

We're looking for a managed dedicated server in NL or DE DC,
We have read much praise in here for Hivelocity but we checked their managed plans and amazed to see that they do not offer any support in cases where FFMPEG or 3rd party scripts are involved.
We need support whenever anything happens where our tech/dev isn't capable enough to solve the issue. As an example of such tech challenge that we would need to have covered by the managed hosting is issues that relate to diagnosing network package losses that are noticed when using a custom Google Cloud Translation API. In such case we wouldn't want to get told 'We can't support you because you're using 3rd party CMS/Software'

We're used to managed dedi hosting in US and have never had any such issues where support aren't taking care of everything. We need to understand who in NL or DE does provide such services?
We do not need support often but when do we we want a sysadmin on the other end who isn't just trying to avoid supporting based on some weird T&C.
Usually over a year we may need 5 hours of support, so during these 5 hours we need just full support and dedication from the support staff as rest of the year the payment for the services has been more of an insurance payment.

Hello,

I am a customer of OVH since Apr 2016, previously, I only rented OVH 3-4 servers at the same time, so really using quality is fine, no problem arises. But 2 months ago, in 1 month I hired more than 30 servers at OVH to serve my clients, and I found many pressing problems, the quality of support at OVH was very poor.

1. The support time of OVH Sing since creating a crash ticket to check the server is very long, each system has more than 6 servers with 1 or 2 faulty servers that must stop all to wait for technical OVH testing takes more than 2-3 days, there are problems that take more than 10 days for OVH to find the cause.

2. Never trust OVH's hardware testing system, because before that I completely trusted OVH's hardware testing system, so the time I waited to solve the server problem took a long time. , because I thought it was my own problem.

3. And when the problem is due to the server error of OVH, we will still have to bear the loss of those faulty servers without a refund of reasonable usage date, as well as forcing to change the usage date to Other servers that do not support refunds.

Details you can see the attached picture.


My ticket :

These server problem when

1.
server ns569036.ip-139-99-125.net (server installed : 22:02, 16/11/2020 ; server return : 22/11/2020)
server ns544549.ip-139-99-124.net (server installed : 13:32, 15/11/2020 ; server return : 24/11/2020)
ticket id: 1141571, 1143377

Because this is a server system connected to each other, after receiving the server it takes 2 days to set up the system. That means around November 19, 2020, the system started to work. From the moment the server started to work, it started having connection problems (ticket: 1141571 - 21/11/2020 09:22), started to experience worse problems when the connection was dropped continuously and the machine server was not accessible around 21/11/2020 23:00 (this happened 4 times before on servers: ns544549.ip-139-99-124.net, ns569036.ip-139- 99-125.net, ns568999.ip-139-99-125.net), after about 2 hours of testing I created a ticket: 1143377 - 22/11/2020 01:18, speculating that the HDD is faulty so I asked to be replaced, but your technician has to wait until 08:00 23/11/2020 GMT + 8 before you can start testing the server. This means that the whole system of 10 servers has to wait more than 48 hours. I asked Belveder about the problem of not being able to wait long so I will buy another server instead and ask for a refund later, and Belveder agreed.


2.
server ns5002501.ip-51-79-162.net (server installed : 22:37, 19/11/2020 ; server return : 30/11/2020)
ticket id: 5805542655, 1158210, 1158130

This server was installed at 22:37 11/19/2020, it took me about 2 days to set up the system. And starting 11/23/2020, the system started to work, after about 1 day of operation, at 20:05 11/24/2020 there was a connection failure and inaccessible. I have to fix it by restarting this server in order for it to work properly again.

The situation continued on 11/26/2020 17:56 and 11/29/2020 20:28, at these 2 times I had to use reboot function in the OVH control panel to reboot the server (can check email let's see ).

Since I can't let the situation continue, my client has to report game server maintenance to wait for you to check the hardware. And because before that, you did not accept any refunds but forced to change the usage date, so I had to let customers wait for you to check and fix.

I created ticket 5805542655 - 11/30/2020 01:04 to request to check and replace the HDD, but until 11/30/2020 07:41 you have just started to check the HDD and do not agree to replace HDD, go to the extended test but still cannot find the cause of the error.

Continue with ticket 1158130 - 11/30/2020 10:00, because unable to find a solution, you agree to replace another server, and I continue to wait until 11/30/2020 16: 25 of you again informed me that the server could not be replaced and asked me to cancel my current server and order a replacement server.

Thus, my server had to be halted for almost 2 days from: 11/29/2020 20:28 until I bought a new server and installed it again on December 1, 2020.


3.
server ns563910.ip-139-99-125.net (server installed : 01:01, 20/11/2020 ; server return : 19/12/2020 ; problem report: 08/12/2020)
ticket id: 1262908, 1243789

This server problem when install first time, can check email: Hardware error during the re-installation of your dedicated server 19/11/2020 22:24

During the time of using this server, there were several times of connection failure, unable to access the server.

Until about December 5, 2020, it started to be automatically restarted, ticket id: 1243789, spent many days of testing, extensive testing, ... you still can't find it. The reason, until I had to take time to record the video to prove it, you guys can check and find out the cause on 12/16/2020 18:10, so more than 10 days the server is down, the system is idle for waiting

4.
server ns5004359.ip-51-79-177.net (server installed : 13:29, 24/11/2020 ; server return : 25/11/2020 )
ticket id: 1147496, 1148254, 1148617, 9905645348, 1148779

server problem with auto reboot, at this time i dont know problem, and your team also not know how to fix, so i buy other server for replace.

5.
server ns563916.ip-139-99-125.net (server installed : 00:50, 06/12/2020 ; server return : 19/11/2020 ; problem report: 08/12/2020)
ticket id: 1243789

After receiving the server, installing to use within 1 day, you will encounter the status of automatically restarting the server. The client temporarily turns off the server for you to check, but more than 10 days later you find out the problem, and the client has left the server not in use.


Thanks.

What solution(s) do you want OVH to offer you?
I want a full refund. Because of the server damage and delay in support time. I do not accept to change the usage date to another server, because the customer is no longer renting the server.

I have lost clients, and money in these incidents.

oneprovider.com

This is based on my experience buying & using dedicated server at oneprovider.com

Following points make this host a perfect AVOID case:

1. No proper communication - you will not get answer when your server will be ready, just keep waiting

2. No Phone support at all - this is the worst thing to face as a client. No Telephonic support at all. Even for the greatest issue like server down, you have to raise ticket and start praying almighty.

3. Chargeable support - They have 2 paid support categories and to promote them, regular customers are treated in the worst manner.

4. Unreasonably Longer time to respond tickets - For server outage, network failure, their support took more than 8 hours to respond and again, they simply asked some choices and once you make one, another 8-10 hours.

5. IP issue - If for any reason, your server is to be replaced, they are unable to provide you same IPs even for same location ! Hence, DNS propagation and all will be the headache for clients.

6. Unfriendly Refund Policy - I have NOT received refund yet. For their own faults as well, they are not willing to refund customers. Rather, they want to make proportionate refund. They considered Time wasted on their support tickets as services used by customer!.

In nutshell, at oneprovider - Dissatisfaction Guaranteed!

I can also provide tickets' snaps in support of my views above.

You are advised in your own interest to AVOID crappy host oneprovider for any serious work.

After asking for a status on the below order after two days without hearing from them, I received the following.

Hi,

We are unable to process your order and we are unable to provide reason.

Thank you,
Perfect International, Inc


Hi REMOVED FOR PRIVACY,
We have received your order. We will email or contact you again once the server is ready. If you have any question, please call us at 1(877)401-4238.
Order Number: REMOVED
Server Specification: Datacenter Location: Dallas, TX
Dedicated Server: Intel Xeon E3-1220 V5
Memory: 32 GB
Hard Drive: 500 GB SSD
Operating System: CentOS7 x64 (Setup: 0.00, Monthly: 0.00)
Control Panel: None
IP Address: 13 IPs (Setup: 0.00, Monthly: 12.00)
IPv6: None
Bandwidth: 30 TB
Uplink Port: 1 Gbps
Hardware Management: IPMI & KVMIP
Quantity: 1

Monthly Payment/server: $61.99
First Month Payment/server: $61.99

I heard of Tempest hosting from several Discord servers, and give it a try.

Bought an M610 dedicated server in Amsterdam, running X5677, 32GB RAM, 900GB storage, 10gbps dedicated unmetered port. yes, you're not reading it wrong.

Onboarding process, it was smooth sailing. Registered, paid, and their IPMI system will automatically install the OS I chose. They also provide "Firewall Manager", where we can add filters on what ports/ips/protocols should be allowed/rejected to our server IP. They also provide DDoS filters, such as OpenVPN/VSE/TCP/TS3.

Compared to other providers, specs/hardware wise, there are far better options (ryzen/epyc/E5), but considering the price, no other providers can offer what they offer. 10gbit unmetered dedicated port for only US$150/mo!?

They do offer Ryzen servers, but I think it's a pre-order system and takes 2-6 weeks.

Network wise, the downside is that they're not on any exchanges/IXs (AMS-IX, DE-CIX, NL-IX, LINX, etc). They only use tier-1 upstreams (GTT & NTT), so sometimes routing outside of Europe (specifically Asia Pacific) is a bit weird.

In terms of support, they offer two options, either via WHMCS or their Discord server. All of the people who I talk to are friendly and knowledgeable.

Overall, for $150/mo, 10gbps unmetered port, it's fantastic. I hope that more & better specs will be available in the near future.

Background
We run a game server hosting company which has been running since 2012. We currently rent roughly 200 dedicated servers from 6 different providers. We currently rent roughly 60 of these dedicated servers from WebNX. We've been with them for just over 7 years and I can safely say that they've been the best datacentre we've used. I know how important reviews are to a company; I feel that we've used WebNX long enough to write an honest review.

Support
We've had our fair share of rubbish support from datacentres in the past. WebNX definitely provides the best support out of all the datacentres we've used. During the past 7 years, I'd say the average response time for a ticket at WebNX was about 10 minutes. We've found the biggest issue with large datacentres is that their support teams are disjointed. This leads to issues which "don't fit the norm" taking a long time to resolve. WebNX is large enough to provide 24/7 365 day support yet small enough to provide genuinely good "straight to the point" support.

Reliability / Uptime
All the datacentres we've used have had some sort of major outage at some point in time. During the 7 years, there have been a couple of network outages at WebNX but the issues have always been resolved quickly along with good communication. Considering the number of servers we have with them, I'd say the uptime is incredibly high.

Hardware
During the past 7 years we've switched our server hardware roughly 4 or 5 times. It's as simple as contacting them letting them know what hardware you like, they provide a reasonably priced quote and in a couple of days, the server is delivered. I'd say on average, broken hardware is resolved in roughly an hour from us opening the ticket.

DDoS Protection
I'd say this is the downside of WebNX. They'll automatically nullroute the IP address if a DDoS attack is detected. The amount of time the IP address is nullrouted depends on how much traffic the attack is sending. It's not really a huge issue for us as we can quickly work out which one of our clients was targeted and then get migrate them over to a DDoS protected IP address. I'm hoping at some stage they'll provide onsite DDoS protection.

Price
They're very reasonably priced considering the support and customisation which they offer.

Network
WebNX's network is top notch. Nothing to complain about at all.

Keep up the great work WebNX! Would be great if you could get another datacentre setup in East Coast USA.

One of his sales thread: https://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1834056

I purchased a server on December 25, at the time he was very responsive and said delivery is usually 5 days. After 5 days he stated it was delayed, and would be delivered Jan.4th. After this he stopped replying to all emails when I tried to follow-up. Payment was through Payoneer which he provided an invoice link to.

DO NOT purchase anything from this user.

I used Reliablesite once a few years ago for a long since dead project, this review focuses on my most recent experience, starting in June this year (a 6 month review). We had a few servers with Reliablesite, that have since been moved to another provider who were able to offer better hardware at this price point.

Sales: 8/10
I've only used their sales livechat, which was quick and concise with their replies to most of my questions, more in depth questions I was directed to email sales (although I never followed this up).

Setup: 3/10
I'll preface this by saying that this was during a large sale event, so I imagine they were under heavier than normal demand.

The first problem was "specials" ordered with customisation (eg ports or bandwidth) are provisioned without their upgrades. This means you have to open a ticket and request the installation of a NIC, or chase up bandwidth upgrades so they are properly applied to the account. We encountered problems spanning multiple servers with NICs not working, IPMI not working, OS installs via the panel not working, these issues were mostly resolved quickly, although a couple took longer than I'd have liked.

I would have preferred if the setup of a customised server was delayed and everything delivered working as ordered, but I understand some customers may want everything ASAP even if it's partial (and in some cases, unusable).

The second issue we encountered was with our second order, where we had accidentally used the same hostname as the first during the ordering process. This resulted in confusion on RS' side during the setup process, as it seems they use hostnames to track servers within accounts rather than a numerical ID system, or possibly just human error on their side as well as ours.

The third issue was when we ordered a couple of "Intel special (5000+ score)" servers. One of the servers that was delivered had an 11 year old i7 860 with a score of 2891. Another was an 8 year old i5 3550 scoring 4805.

We explained that the i5 was fine and we didn't care too much about the score, the main issue is the i7 was so old that it lacked AES-NI, which was needed for our use case. One of the techs said they'd look into installing AES-NI (which obviously isn't possible). We requested an exchange with a server that had a CPU with AES-NI, or met the advertised 5000 score.

We were told that the Passmark algorithm was updated a few months ago meaning the i7 860 no longer met the advertised score, a swap wasn't possible so they'd refund the server and update the site. I'm not sure why they couldn't do a swap, as we just turned around and ordered a special with identical RAM/SSD but with a newer Xeon which was the same price. All in all, a lot of hassle, a needless refund and reorder, and they still haven't corrected their site with the correct score.

Support: ??/10
After the turbulent setup experience, we didn't need to contact support once. Obviously this is a very good sign, but as the only actual interaction we had with support was during the above setup period, I don't feel comfortable giving a rating here.

Network: 10/10
No complaints at all, speeds to Europe and across US have been very good. I'd seen no signs of packet loss, no drops, excellent.

Control Panel: 7/10
There's 3 separate control panels, 1 for billing, 1 for tickets, and 1 for managing servers. There is little integration between them visible from the client's side, making it a bit awkward to use. For example, you can't select a service the issue is about on the ticket control panel. The server management panel looks a bit dated but everything is there and functional that I could see, the only missing thing was the ability to edit the server names (which could lead to the confusion seen in the Setup section of the review).

One annoying thing is that RS blocks a lot of ASNs from accessing their site, I assume to block orders from proxies, however these blocks also cover their customer panels, meaning if you're on a VPN (be it a private or public) then you might not be able to manage your services. I understand wanting to block orders from anonymising services, however blocking entire ASNs from even accessing the management panels is a bit of an over reach in my opinion.

Pricing/Value: 7/10
Their specials are good value, although you do have to take into account the aging hardware on their cheaper specials. Their configurable hardware options are a bit pricey and I think could do with revisiting, eg $60/m for a 1TB SSD is a bit much for todays pricing. I'm sure they could work out a better deal if I were to contact their sales though. Their network upgrades are very good value, with cheap 10Gbps ports and bandwidth upgrades, especially during sales events.

Overall, despite the poor setup experience at the start, I'd say our experience was very good overall. I'd certainly use Reliablesite again for other projects in the future, and would recommend them if your use case matches their offerings.

Just wanted to post my terrible experience with W3Space.

They offer absolute ZERO customer support and ignore all tickets.
They claim 24 hour server delivery on their website. So, I ordered a dedicated server from them for $150 on May 18th (over 3 weeks ago).
After a few days of nothing happening, I opened a ticket asking if there's any ETA on delivery. Silence. No response. No, sorry we're out of stock and expect new servers soon. Absolutely NOTHING.
So, after just over a week of no answers I did the only thing I could and opened a Paypal claim.
I also opened a ticket telling them I no longer need the server and to cancel my order. This ticket of course was also ignored.

They still didn't bother to answer. As we all know Paypal claims take some time. After escalating, they had until today to respond.

So, today, last day to respond to the claim, I magically receive server details. No apology. No sorry for being late. Just an email with server details and ticket closed.

Needless to say after 3 weeks of waiting I've already ordered the server elsewhere don't need it anymore. So I have to wait to see what Paypal decides, as I'm out $150 and 3 weeks late received a server that I no longer need and requested multiple time to cancel after failure to deliver or respond to any tickets.

Surprise surprise... they're not answering those tickets either. The only thing they bother to answer is the Paypal claim.

If you want to waste money and get zero customer service. These guys are the place to go.
Otherwise, steer clear. Still waiting to see what Paypal decides now that they've provided them with server information 3 weeks too late.