Hetzner network stability

Hey

I have a social network website with over 100 milion clients (not now but in about 4-5 months) ...
I want to buy a SX server from Hetzner so i asked them about the abuse terms ...

I got this response:

Dear client,

Thank you for your email.

If we receive an abuse report for a site hosted by you, we will forward the abuse report to you. The deadline to solve the problem is in most cases 24 hours.
If the problem is not be solved within the given time the IP address could be blocked by our side.

IF there will be a lot of abuse reports for one customer server or account, it could lead to a cancellation of the server.


Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards

for 100 million clients, we really can't check their contents uploaded to our server (files and ...) so we 100% will get tooooooo many abuse reports and from what support dep said:
IF there will be a lot of abuse reports for one customer server or account, it could lead to a cancellation of the server.

It shows that Hetzner is not Appropriate for social network or even big websites (as they said (IF there will be a lot of abuse reports for one customer server or account, it could lead to a cancellation of the server)) !!!

Question:
How some websites servers like discord located in germany, frankfort (i think it's hetzner !!!)) ?? and why they not get banned !!!!? is it because they hide their ip in cloudflare?
How even the abuse report works !!? how people submits abuse report ? and abuse report is for which contents?

We've been with Hetzner for years and, while satisfied with the hardware and technical support and infrastructure, quite unhappy with support/sales/abuse departments where it always feels like they're doing one a favor in even answering and often make little effort to actually help.

So my question is if there's any hosting provider to match what they offer? We want to upgrade from our current servers and one type of servers we looked into are https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ax41 which you can get in Germany* for 39 EUR/month (plus 39EUR setup fee) (prices without VAT as we're outside EU). This is a AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Hexa-Core which has a passmark > 17,000 and comes with 64GB RAM and 2 x 512 GB NVMe SSD. When I found something similar with OVH (slightly better CPU, 3600X instead of 3600), it 105 USD per month when committing to 24 months which is more than double.

Another type we were looking at is the https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ax51

Anyway, any matching offers elsewhere? We can probably take some bandwidth limitation and cool with either EU or US locations.



*They have a center in Finland but when I did a bit of research it seemed it offers much worse network connectivity so while 5 EUR cheaper per server, doesn't seem to be worth the risk.

I have some servers at Hivelocity, since 2017.

No network problems, 100% uptime, excellent hardware and support.

Yesterday, after 2 or 3 years, one of the backup disks on one of my servers, failed.

I opened a ticket asking how to change to a new HDD. To my surprise, the support offered the possibility to clone the disk to try to recover the data. Despite being a backup disk, it would be good to recover, as I had left some old accounts there.

Then they removed the HDD and cloned it in 3 hours, for a new HDD. And it worked! all recovered data. Of course, it will not always be possible to recover, it will depend on the problem that the HDD presents.

And during the whole process, the Hivelocity support team was very active, I scheduled to shut down the server after 7PM (so they can insert the new drive) and minutes before they wrote saying "we are ready to install the new HDD, you just have to shutdown the server". Never, but never, have I seen this type of concern with the customer, in the datacenters where I have been. I'm in this market this 2004, I had servers at The Planet, Layered Tech, Host Dime, LiquidWeb, and so many others that don't even exist anymore.

I've had servers in other companies, which were managed, and I didn't have support like that. My servers at Hivelocity have no management, but they go beyond what was expected, gave me all the support from beginning to end of the process, offered the data recovery service for free and even warned that they will save the old HDD for a week, for any emergency.

Thanks Hivelocity, I only have one thing to ask: keep it up, "this is the way".

hello,

For about 100eur, i can get managed Hetzner server: hetzner.com/managed-server

OR unmanaged Hetzner server + platinumservermanagement.com/ (or + myw.pt/devops).


What will be a better option?

I have no experience as System Administrator.

I will like to keep the server fast, optimized, and online.

I don't plan to host many websites on the server, I need a server for a couple of large websites.

So optimization of servers for sites is very important to me.

For optimization I mean, cache optimization, database optimization, server optimization for WordPress, etc...

Is anyone have experience with Hetzner managed servers?


Best Regards

Hello,

I am a customer of OVH since Apr 2016, previously, I only rented OVH 3-4 servers at the same time, so really using quality is fine, no problem arises. But 2 months ago, in 1 month I hired more than 30 servers at OVH to serve my clients, and I found many pressing problems, the quality of support at OVH was very poor.

1. The support time of OVH Sing since creating a crash ticket to check the server is very long, each system has more than 6 servers with 1 or 2 faulty servers that must stop all to wait for technical OVH testing takes more than 2-3 days, there are problems that take more than 10 days for OVH to find the cause.

2. Never trust OVH's hardware testing system, because before that I completely trusted OVH's hardware testing system, so the time I waited to solve the server problem took a long time. , because I thought it was my own problem.

3. And when the problem is due to the server error of OVH, we will still have to bear the loss of those faulty servers without a refund of reasonable usage date, as well as forcing to change the usage date to Other servers that do not support refunds.

Details you can see the attached picture.


My ticket :

These server problem when

1.
server ns569036.ip-139-99-125.net (server installed : 22:02, 16/11/2020 ; server return : 22/11/2020)
server ns544549.ip-139-99-124.net (server installed : 13:32, 15/11/2020 ; server return : 24/11/2020)
ticket id: 1141571, 1143377

Because this is a server system connected to each other, after receiving the server it takes 2 days to set up the system. That means around November 19, 2020, the system started to work. From the moment the server started to work, it started having connection problems (ticket: 1141571 - 21/11/2020 09:22), started to experience worse problems when the connection was dropped continuously and the machine server was not accessible around 21/11/2020 23:00 (this happened 4 times before on servers: ns544549.ip-139-99-124.net, ns569036.ip-139- 99-125.net, ns568999.ip-139-99-125.net), after about 2 hours of testing I created a ticket: 1143377 - 22/11/2020 01:18, speculating that the HDD is faulty so I asked to be replaced, but your technician has to wait until 08:00 23/11/2020 GMT + 8 before you can start testing the server. This means that the whole system of 10 servers has to wait more than 48 hours. I asked Belveder about the problem of not being able to wait long so I will buy another server instead and ask for a refund later, and Belveder agreed.


2.
server ns5002501.ip-51-79-162.net (server installed : 22:37, 19/11/2020 ; server return : 30/11/2020)
ticket id: 5805542655, 1158210, 1158130

This server was installed at 22:37 11/19/2020, it took me about 2 days to set up the system. And starting 11/23/2020, the system started to work, after about 1 day of operation, at 20:05 11/24/2020 there was a connection failure and inaccessible. I have to fix it by restarting this server in order for it to work properly again.

The situation continued on 11/26/2020 17:56 and 11/29/2020 20:28, at these 2 times I had to use reboot function in the OVH control panel to reboot the server (can check email let's see ).

Since I can't let the situation continue, my client has to report game server maintenance to wait for you to check the hardware. And because before that, you did not accept any refunds but forced to change the usage date, so I had to let customers wait for you to check and fix.

I created ticket 5805542655 - 11/30/2020 01:04 to request to check and replace the HDD, but until 11/30/2020 07:41 you have just started to check the HDD and do not agree to replace HDD, go to the extended test but still cannot find the cause of the error.

Continue with ticket 1158130 - 11/30/2020 10:00, because unable to find a solution, you agree to replace another server, and I continue to wait until 11/30/2020 16: 25 of you again informed me that the server could not be replaced and asked me to cancel my current server and order a replacement server.

Thus, my server had to be halted for almost 2 days from: 11/29/2020 20:28 until I bought a new server and installed it again on December 1, 2020.


3.
server ns563910.ip-139-99-125.net (server installed : 01:01, 20/11/2020 ; server return : 19/12/2020 ; problem report: 08/12/2020)
ticket id: 1262908, 1243789

This server problem when install first time, can check email: Hardware error during the re-installation of your dedicated server 19/11/2020 22:24

During the time of using this server, there were several times of connection failure, unable to access the server.

Until about December 5, 2020, it started to be automatically restarted, ticket id: 1243789, spent many days of testing, extensive testing, ... you still can't find it. The reason, until I had to take time to record the video to prove it, you guys can check and find out the cause on 12/16/2020 18:10, so more than 10 days the server is down, the system is idle for waiting

4.
server ns5004359.ip-51-79-177.net (server installed : 13:29, 24/11/2020 ; server return : 25/11/2020 )
ticket id: 1147496, 1148254, 1148617, 9905645348, 1148779

server problem with auto reboot, at this time i dont know problem, and your team also not know how to fix, so i buy other server for replace.

5.
server ns563916.ip-139-99-125.net (server installed : 00:50, 06/12/2020 ; server return : 19/11/2020 ; problem report: 08/12/2020)
ticket id: 1243789

After receiving the server, installing to use within 1 day, you will encounter the status of automatically restarting the server. The client temporarily turns off the server for you to check, but more than 10 days later you find out the problem, and the client has left the server not in use.


Thanks.

What solution(s) do you want OVH to offer you?
I want a full refund. Because of the server damage and delay in support time. I do not accept to change the usage date to another server, because the customer is no longer renting the server.

I have lost clients, and money in these incidents.

So, I'm looking for a big server to migrate my old server from OVH. Seems like Im taking the most powerful AX server (https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ax161) or maybe the second most powerful Dell Server (https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/dell/dx181) (both with AMD EPYC 7502P, but Im wondering whats the difference between those options. In Dell I can Install 2 more disk than the AX servers, that the only difference, but I read that Dell Server have an special RAID hardware. Is this price efficient? Does the ax161 server comes with any kind of RAID installation?

I want to do a RAID-1 configuration.

What is the actual meaning of Dedicated servers ? ok the answer is a dedicated server is a type of web hosting in which a client has the exclusive use of an entire server. So that mean VPS also a dedicated server. We used that word a decade ago for Bare Metal Servers. I think we should correct the WHT category as Bare Metal Servers. This is just a suggestion. What do you think about that ?

I've used Hetzner on and off for the past 10 years or so. I'm currently part of a few different projects that are using Hetzner, with in total around 30 active servers at the moment, however in total across the years, I must have had around 50-60 servers with Hetzner.

Sales: 6/10
I've had limited contact with the sales team, simple questions are answered quickly and there is live chat for these types of questions as well. Sales responses are anywhere from a couple of hours to a full day. The only real issue I've encountered with sales or billing is the inability to remove the "flexi pack" charge. This was a surcharge that was later abolished for when you wanted to customise the hardware of the server, however clients with existing servers were still being charged this fee. When I requested this charge be removed from some of our servers, sales said that it would only be removed after we had the servers for 2 years. So the solution? Cancel the older servers and order new ones. This was a hassle to overcome some pointless inflexibility, although we ended up with newer/better hardware at a cheaper price.

Setup: 8/10
Setup times are usually within an hour or so. Customised servers typically take a couple of days. I've encountered 1 mistake, with incorrect hardware as they misread our setup notes, this was corrected within an hour upon being notified of the mistake.

Support: 7/10
Responses typically take 10-30mins, I believe the longest I've had to wait has been an hour. Support responses have been a little curt at times, but this could be due to the language differences, and these responses are in the minority. Failed hard drive replacements take around 30 mins upon being notified. A major downside is lack of any client side ticketing system, with everything having to be dealt with via Email.

Network: 8/10
All servers have a 1Gbps dedicated port by default, sometimes there can be issues maxing the port, but it's rare to see anything below 800Mbps when I've tested, although this hasn't been extensive testing. Stability has been good, there was a hiccup earlier in the year which resulted in some packet loss, although this didn't affect us very much.

Control Panel: 5/10
As I said, lack of a proper ticketing system is a major issue which I'm surprised hasn't been rectified yet. Other than that, their panel is pretty feature rich, with extra features like alerts/notifications, decent bandwidth graphs, power management, etc.

Pricing/Value: 11/10
Hetzner's value for money is completely insane. If budget is your primary concern and you need an unmanaged provider in Europe, I don't think you can do any better.

I recently got a server (AX41-NVMe) with Plesk at Hetzner. Via the DNS console I added the base domain name, where I also want to reach the server, and that works fine.

What I'm running into now is Hetzner telling me to manually add all domain names to the DNS console in order to use them with the server. But that's crazy, isn't it? There are hosting companies that also rent the servers and they cannot manually add every domain name in the DNS console, I think.

I'm not used to it that way either. The server I rent from Leaseweb allows me to simply add a domain name to cPanel and it will be automatically recognized by the worldwide DNS servers.

For me the Hetzner DNS console is not a workable solution in this way. So I thought to solve it with the Plesk extension for Digital Ocean. Works great! But unfortunately no more than 50 domain names are allowed to be added to their DNS. I want to add 100 domains, so this solution doesn't work either.

So my question to you is:

How can I make my domain names reachable, without manually adding them all to Hetzner's DNS console?

Hi

I am tasked to purchase a new server for our network. Basically the idea is to consolidate 2 servers with VMs into one more powerful server.
Current configuration is 2xE5-2680v4 with 128GB ram per server.

I am thinking about something like AMD Epyc 7702P with 256GB of memory, but I am not completely sure about it. Yes, this server has lots of cores, but the base clock speed of this CPU is lower than what we currently have.
I did some research and this CPU seems to be more powerful compared on a sheet, but is it on reality?

We are mainly using those servers for hosting our websites, some big databases. My question is do you think we will see significant performance increase if we do this upgrade, beside saving some money on datacenter costs (consolidating 4U into 1U server)?