Can OVH sue me or put me in jail if I refuse to pay(.,,)?

Has anyone tried to cancel their server theyre paying 12 months for? They say I owe $620 and Im in a contract, but I never signed anything. My job is being relocated sometime this year and I wont be able to host a server. If you think about it, OVH isnt really losing anything if I walk away. Ive canceled my credit card. My account appears to be on their Canada page, but Im from USA. Can I get into trouble, or do will their threat be empty? They did however get my drivers license picture when I signed up many months ago. Not sure if they still have that from my email. For what its worth, I plan on moving to another address in the near future.


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Possible scam by PhoenixNAP

I attempted to sign up with PhoenixNAP at the very beginning of July, at the urging of a friend who was having trouble signing us up at OVH. Boy, was that a mistake.

I set up our account, and attempted to register for a 12 month reservation of a server configuration. It signed me up for 12 months... of a completely different server configuration. So I cancelled that.

Then friend attempted to use the account to sign up for the originally intended server configuration. It signed us up for 12 months of yet a different unwanted server configuration. So we cancelled that as well.

At this point, I decided we should not do business with PhoenixNAP, and went with OVH instead, paying with my Privacy.com virtual card allocated specifically for OVH. PhoenixNAP attempted to swing me back to working with them, but made no mention of the two reservations.

I removed my card information from CCBill, a business that Google searches would seem to indicate is a questionable billing service. They managed to bill my card regardless, so I reported them to my bank and cancelled the card and got a replacement. PhoenixNAP returned the money and my bank eventually removed the temporary credit they gave me.

I refuse to give any further details to either PhoenixNAP or CCBill now. They continue to email me multiple times per week with my "late payment" notices for these reservations for server configurations that were not only wrong, but that I have yet to use, and no longer want anyway.

OVH is forcing me to pay $2k upfront for a server I don't plan on using.

I seriously can't believe what I'm going through.
Back in 2019, I decided to purchase a RISE-3 Server for 1 year, paid approximately 1.6k EUR. Fast forward to 2020, I have been paying this server month to month ( I didn't renew the yearly contract and instead decided to pay month by month). All went smooth until this month when I decided that I no longer needed this machine.
For some reason, OVH is bringing up the contract from 2019 and demanding that I pay 1.6k EUR for the server until 2022, they didn't provide any resolution, only paying the bill.

What's up with OVH??? This is just messed up for a small company like ours, I simply can't afford to pay that right now and they are still telling me that I have to.

Appalling Customer Service by Hetzner

I have had an absolutely terrible experience with this company. I used their services for a short period of time, then decided to close my account. I was not informed of any outstanding balances before doing so. The next day I was sent an invoice for 7.54.

The invoice states that the payment is due by PayPal. I only signed up for this company because they advertise as accepting payment by PayPal. When I click the link to pay the invoice however, it does not let me do so as my account is closed.

The support team has been rude and absolutely unhelpful. They have informed me that I am unable to pay by PayPal because I closed my account. I have asked them to reinstate my account so that I can pay my invoice. They refuse to do this because my account has an outstanding balance.

One of their e-mails to me stated the following:
As the account is disabled already, you have to make a bank transfer. There is no other option, and it's not our problem, you deleted your account, so disbaled it, before paying the invoice.

Its not their problem? Are you serious? When I closed my account it didnt show me an outstanding invoice. It didnt give me any option to pay. I closed my account on March 31st at 12:02 PM. I was sent an invoice on April 1st at 4:14 AM. It seems to me like the problem is the way they run their system.

They insist that I send an international wire transfer for 7.54 to them. I have repeatedly refused to send an international wire transfer where the fee to do so will cost me three or four times what I owe. After all, they clearly advertise that they accept PayPal.

I have on multiple occasions offered to pay by credit card. I have also asked them for an e-mail address that I can simply send a PayPal payment to. They have refused both of these and insist that I send them a wire transfer. They are threatening to send me to a collections agency if I do not do so. This behavior borders on extortion. I am actually trying to pay my invoice, but they are NOT giving me a reasonable way to do so.

Again when I asked to pay for PayPal, one of their replies states the following:
you don't have the option to do that as YOU deleted the account.

My last four e-mails to them asking them for a PayPal address to send payment to have been completely ignored. I suspect they will soon send me to a collections agency (as they have directly told me they will do this) for not paying my invoice, which I have repeatedly attempted to pay.

I have NEVER dealt with a company with such rude and appalling customer service. I recommend avoiding this terrible company at ALL costs.

Has OVH forced anyone else to 12 month contract + billed upfront?

Originally took these servers out on a 12 month contract and paid up front as they gave good discounts for that.

When renewal time was due I noticed there was almost no discount when paying for 12 months upfront/12m commitment so I changed my billing to monthly and no 12 month commitment.

Their support confirmed there is only a discount when renewing if there is a commitment. After some quick maths the discount worked out to be a few bucks a month, not worth committing 12 months for such a small saving.

Either way, I was on this monthly billing/renewal for a few months and then randomly OVH swapped my servers to a 12 month commitment and charged me 12 months upfront. Just about fell out my chair when I seen this bill.

I seen the post recently about a guy that forgot to swap to a monthly contract after the annual one ended - This isn't my case though. I swapped to a monthly billing.

Has anyone else heard of this happening?

Another Review of Lousy Customer Service, This Time at Total Server Solutions/Performive

I posted a TrustPilot review a few days ago describing my recent experience with Performive/Total Server Solutions. I have summarized that review here because I have benefitted from honest WHT reviews and feedback over the years which have helped me find great services as well as undesirable services to avoid. I'd like to repay the favor.

I was a big fan of Certified Hosting. I signed up for a budget dedicated server with them in 2011. The signup/setup was smooth and speedy, their data center speeds were superb, and their tech support was fabulous. In late 2018, Certified was acquired by Total Server Solutions, now called Performive. It wasn't long before tech support went downhill. Since then, I've had to contact TSS/Performive repeatedly about downtime and other problems that kept popping up every few months and never seemed to get resolved. However, I dreaded the chore of finding a new server host and migrating to another machine, so I grit my teeth and dealt with it.

On 03/12/2021, I was auto-billed by Performive for my customary six months of prepaid service at my negotiated rate of $75 a month. As usual, they charged $450 to my credit card. However, a month later, a guy I'd never heard of blasted into my inbox declaring himself to be my new sales rep and spouting dire warnings that my server had reached its "end of life," I was in breach of various banking compliance laws, a terrible security meltdown could happen at any moment, and I MUST upgrade my server immediately!!! I knew where this was going, and my suspicion was confirmed when Performive DOUBLED my monthly rate and demanded that I sign a 36-month contract at this new, inflated rate. They also switched me from managed to unmanaged and wanted to upcharge me to make the server managed again.

To be clear, this was completely unacceptable. I stated that the time to re-negotiate a six-month prepaid rate is BEFORE I've been charged and paid in advance, not a month later. Moreover, Certified had agreed to keep my server hardware and software up-to-date, and if TSS/Performive had allowed it to become an antiquated piece of junk with gaping security vulnerabilities as they claimed, the liability for that was on them. Nevertheless, I was given until May 31 to accept the mandatory upgrade and doubling of my monthly rate, which I declined. I agreed to vacate the server by May 12, the end of my second prepaid month, which left a $300 credit for the four prepaid months which Performive declined to provide.

I spent ten sleepless nights finding a new server hosting firm and migrating my web content, which I didn't plan on doing at a very difficult time of health and other personal issues. But I got it done and vacated Performive's server on schedule. Since then, I have sent multiple emails to their Billing and Sales departments asking that my $300 credit be promptly refunded. ALL of those emails to both departments have met with dead silence. Adding insult to injury, Performive emailed me three robo-surveys asking "How Are We Doing?" This is such a demeaning and insulting way to treat a 10-year customer.

Last Friday, I sent another refund demand, which I expect Performive's missing-in-action billing department and sales staff will again ignore. So, when my June 4 deadline to refund my $300 credit passes, I'm wondering if my 30-day Notice of Intent to Sue will bring another robo-survey asking, "How Are We Doing?"

Alternatives to LiquidWeb Cloud Dedicated (Managed WHM/cPanel)

Host recommendations needed. Let me start by saying, THANKS in advance for your replies.

I own a (very) small US-based business and my website/email hosting has been with LiquidWeb since they acquired my previous host WiredTree.

LiquidWeb ignored a support ticket yesterday and as my yearly payment comes due next week I thought I probably owe it to myself to at least evaluate my options before it renews.

My biggest priority is knowing I have good managed support when I need it. Problem is, having support tickets linger in the cue for a day or so until I call/chat them and ask when it's going to get looked at has been a pretty constant problem since day one. And it's not like I'm inundating them with support tickets either. My website development has been on hold the past couple years due to personal reasons, so this might be the first support ticket I've even opened this year other than asking them to whitelist an IP because their automated process for that doesn't work.

Looks like I'm paying about $2,400/year for a Cloud Dedicated server and $800/year for a second smaller plan (old WiredTree VPS plan).

The main server appears to be 8 core (Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1271 v3 @ 3.60GHz) with a 24/900/5 config (I think). I'm not currently taxing the box at all; it's a total overkill in all regards. One downside to LiquidWeb is at the time I moved this server from a VPS to this plan I was kind of forced into a much, much higher plan than I really needed because every option in between had the same limited disk space my VPS had and the only reason I needed to upgrade was that I was pushing disk limits.

As such, being able to scale up or down in the future without having to make huge jumps is also important.

As of right now, the second (VPS) server could easily be absorbed by the first. I actually intended to do that a year ago when my bill came due but then life got in the way and it fell through the cracks.

Both my boxes are managed CentOS/WHM/cPanel with Root access. I did not migrate away from cPanel when the prices went up. If there's something legitimately better than cPanel I'm happy to evaluate it, but until then it's the devil I know.

Prior to WiredTree/LiquidWeb I had 2 VPS plans at ServInt. Originally ServInt was excellent... until they weren't. But even after they outsourced their support overseas, I really still didn't have support issues. I left ServInt because my boxes were aging badly and all signs said the company was in trouble. I will also say my brief experience with WiredTree support before they got bought out was amazing.

Before ServInt I was with Inmotion Hosting (originally shared hosting then a VPS albeit without Root access). I will say I have no desire to work with any host that sells shared plans again.

As far as budget is concerned, I can afford what I'm currently paying. Yes I'd love to be paying less although that's not what's driving this search. If I stay with LiquidWeb, I'll migrate the VPS into the Cloud Dedicated and downsize to $2,400/year. If I'm paying less elsewhere, I expect it's because I downsized the Cloud Dedicated server's specs.

When I left ServInt for WiredTree, recommendations from this site caused me to have a short list of WiredTree, KnownHost, FutureHosting and LiquidWeb. I've seen recent recommendations in other threads for KnownHost and BigScoots, so that's where my current short list begins. Any recommendations are appreciated.

SoYouStart's obnosxious and incredibly incompetent staff [ words can barely describe ]

Failing to cancel (at my request) a 1year recurring plan that was due to expire a few days ago, not only did they charge me already for another period, but they disabled a completely unrelated dedicated server.
Now I feel like explaining basic math to a kindergarten who's not only distracted and incompetent, but also replies exclusively in french even though i write everything in English.

It's cheap and the infrastructure works when it works. God forbid you want to cancel or ask for the most basic support, you're better off freezing your credit card, paypal and changing to a different host.

2/10

edit: been a customer for 5 years, don't recommend.

OVH validation account time

Hello guys, I don't know if it's a problem or it's normal in ovh, I created an account and paid for a server in OVH so far so good, they sent me an email requesting documents to validate the account (ID and invoices in my name) I sent them to all, but I still did not get a response from them, 3 days have passed and I am still waiting, send the documents on Thursday afternoon...

I am afraid because they have already taken the money from my credit card, in my bank figure OVH pending/retention

It's normal and need to wait more longer or I should worried?

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Hetzner is not appropriate for big and social network websites, as they said

Hey

I have a social network website with over 100 milion clients (not now but in about 4-5 months) ...
I want to buy a SX server from Hetzner so i asked them about the abuse terms ...

I got this response:

Dear client,

Thank you for your email.

If we receive an abuse report for a site hosted by you, we will forward the abuse report to you. The deadline to solve the problem is in most cases 24 hours.
If the problem is not be solved within the given time the IP address could be blocked by our side.

IF there will be a lot of abuse reports for one customer server or account, it could lead to a cancellation of the server.


Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards

for 100 million clients, we really can't check their contents uploaded to our server (files and ...) so we 100% will get tooooooo many abuse reports and from what support dep said:
IF there will be a lot of abuse reports for one customer server or account, it could lead to a cancellation of the server.

It shows that Hetzner is not Appropriate for social network or even big websites (as they said (IF there will be a lot of abuse reports for one customer server or account, it could lead to a cancellation of the server)) !!!

Question:
How some websites servers like discord located in germany, frankfort (i think it's hetzner !!!)) ?? and why they not get banned !!!!? is it because they hide their ip in cloudflare?
How even the abuse report works !!? how people submits abuse report ? and abuse report is for which contents?

OVH Killed my business

Hello,
i was having a server with hetzner for over 10 years on December i decided to move my server to OVH ( i heard it have better servers and network ). so i registered on their website ordered a server moved my 100+ website to the new server and all was fine. 2 days a go they asked me to send them documents that prove my identity and i did that with even photo of me holding my identity card etc. yesterday i received 3 emails saying that they wont accept me as a customer and they closed my account and suspended my server all that without giving me the option to take off my data my life worth of data 100 DOMAINS. i emailed them and they do not answer.
i did nothing wrong like hack or spam my documents where valid and real. i don't care if they don't want me any more as a customer but i need my files :'(