I've used Hetzner on and off for the past 10 years or so. I'm currently part of a few different projects that are using Hetzner, with in total around 30 active servers at the moment, however in total across the years, I must have had around 50-60 servers with Hetzner.
Sales: 6/10
I've had limited contact with the sales team, simple questions are answered quickly and there is live chat for these types of questions as well. Sales responses are anywhere from a couple of hours to a full day. The only real issue I've encountered with sales or billing is the inability to remove the "flexi pack" charge. This was a surcharge that was later abolished for when you wanted to customise the hardware of the server, however clients with existing servers were still being charged this fee. When I requested this charge be removed from some of our servers, sales said that it would only be removed after we had the servers for 2 years. So the solution? Cancel the older servers and order new ones. This was a hassle to overcome some pointless inflexibility, although we ended up with newer/better hardware at a cheaper price.
Setup: 8/10
Setup times are usually within an hour or so. Customised servers typically take a couple of days. I've encountered 1 mistake, with incorrect hardware as they misread our setup notes, this was corrected within an hour upon being notified of the mistake.
Support: 7/10
Responses typically take 10-30mins, I believe the longest I've had to wait has been an hour. Support responses have been a little curt at times, but this could be due to the language differences, and these responses are in the minority. Failed hard drive replacements take around 30 mins upon being notified. A major downside is lack of any client side ticketing system, with everything having to be dealt with via Email.
Network: 8/10
All servers have a 1Gbps dedicated port by default, sometimes there can be issues maxing the port, but it's rare to see anything below 800Mbps when I've tested, although this hasn't been extensive testing. Stability has been good, there was a hiccup earlier in the year which resulted in some packet loss, although this didn't affect us very much.
Control Panel: 5/10
As I said, lack of a proper ticketing system is a major issue which I'm surprised hasn't been rectified yet. Other than that, their panel is pretty feature rich, with extra features like alerts/notifications, decent bandwidth graphs, power management, etc.
Pricing/Value: 11/10
Hetzner's value for money is completely insane. If budget is your primary concern and you need an unmanaged provider in Europe, I don't think you can do any better.
We signed up with Nforce in April 2019, currently just have a single server with them, although if we need another server with similar requirements in NL we'd definitely be using Nforce.
Sales: 10/10
Very friendly and flexible, they were more than happy to work with us to find a solution for our needs and budget requirements. We went back and forth over a couple of days, responses were usually within 30mins or so. We ended up with a nice discount and all of our goals/needs met.
Setup: 10/10
Our server is in Dataplace Nedzone, the server was quite heavily customised and setup took less than 12 hours after payment was made, and that included a fraud check. All hardware was as quoted and everything was properly setup and configured, and worked as expected.
Support: 9/10
The only tickets we've had to create in the 1.5 years we've been with Nforce have been for upgrades. Ticket responses and subsequent replies are typically around 5-15 mins. Support staff have always been friendly and have perfect English. One thing that I'm a massive fan of is the ability to order upgrades directly through support staff, without having to go via sales. This speeds up the process massively and also means you can upgrade hardware outside of sale's business hours.
There was an issue with a recent hardware upgrade and it took longer than expected. We were kept updated and the whole process was resolved within 90mins, from starting the hardware upgrade, to discovering the problem, to the problem being resolved.
Network: 10/10
We have a 10Gbps port and can max it at any time day or night without any problems. Network has been rock solid, downtime has been zero and we've witnessed no packet loss.
Control Panel: 7/10
Like with many hosts, Nforce has a separate management and ticketing system, this causes things to be a bit disjointed and a bit user unfriendly when dealing with tickets. Additionally it would be nice to have some extra features within the management panel like bandwidth alerts, and some basic automatic monitoring options.
Pricing/Value: 9/10
The default pricing if you go through the wizard on their website is a bit on the high side, but after talking with their sales we were very pleased with what we ended up with. Factoring in the service we've received, I'd say the value for money has been very good.
I used Reliablesite once a few years ago for a long since dead project, this review focuses on my most recent experience, starting in June this year (a 6 month review). We had a few servers with Reliablesite, that have since been moved to another provider who were able to offer better hardware at this price point.
Sales: 8/10
I've only used their sales livechat, which was quick and concise with their replies to most of my questions, more in depth questions I was directed to email sales (although I never followed this up).
Setup: 3/10
I'll preface this by saying that this was during a large sale event, so I imagine they were under heavier than normal demand.
The first problem was "specials" ordered with customisation (eg ports or bandwidth) are provisioned without their upgrades. This means you have to open a ticket and request the installation of a NIC, or chase up bandwidth upgrades so they are properly applied to the account. We encountered problems spanning multiple servers with NICs not working, IPMI not working, OS installs via the panel not working, these issues were mostly resolved quickly, although a couple took longer than I'd have liked.
I would have preferred if the setup of a customised server was delayed and everything delivered working as ordered, but I understand some customers may want everything ASAP even if it's partial (and in some cases, unusable).
The second issue we encountered was with our second order, where we had accidentally used the same hostname as the first during the ordering process. This resulted in confusion on RS' side during the setup process, as it seems they use hostnames to track servers within accounts rather than a numerical ID system, or possibly just human error on their side as well as ours.
The third issue was when we ordered a couple of "Intel special (5000+ score)" servers. One of the servers that was delivered had an 11 year old i7 860 with a score of 2891. Another was an 8 year old i5 3550 scoring 4805.
We explained that the i5 was fine and we didn't care too much about the score, the main issue is the i7 was so old that it lacked AES-NI, which was needed for our use case. One of the techs said they'd look into installing AES-NI (which obviously isn't possible). We requested an exchange with a server that had a CPU with AES-NI, or met the advertised 5000 score.
We were told that the Passmark algorithm was updated a few months ago meaning the i7 860 no longer met the advertised score, a swap wasn't possible so they'd refund the server and update the site. I'm not sure why they couldn't do a swap, as we just turned around and ordered a special with identical RAM/SSD but with a newer Xeon which was the same price. All in all, a lot of hassle, a needless refund and reorder, and they still haven't corrected their site with the correct score.
Support: ??/10
After the turbulent setup experience, we didn't need to contact support once. Obviously this is a very good sign, but as the only actual interaction we had with support was during the above setup period, I don't feel comfortable giving a rating here.
Network: 10/10
No complaints at all, speeds to Europe and across US have been very good. I'd seen no signs of packet loss, no drops, excellent.
Control Panel: 7/10
There's 3 separate control panels, 1 for billing, 1 for tickets, and 1 for managing servers. There is little integration between them visible from the client's side, making it a bit awkward to use. For example, you can't select a service the issue is about on the ticket control panel. The server management panel looks a bit dated but everything is there and functional that I could see, the only missing thing was the ability to edit the server names (which could lead to the confusion seen in the Setup section of the review).
One annoying thing is that RS blocks a lot of ASNs from accessing their site, I assume to block orders from proxies, however these blocks also cover their customer panels, meaning if you're on a VPN (be it a private or public) then you might not be able to manage your services. I understand wanting to block orders from anonymising services, however blocking entire ASNs from even accessing the management panels is a bit of an over reach in my opinion.
Pricing/Value: 7/10
Their specials are good value, although you do have to take into account the aging hardware on their cheaper specials. Their configurable hardware options are a bit pricey and I think could do with revisiting, eg $60/m for a 1TB SSD is a bit much for todays pricing. I'm sure they could work out a better deal if I were to contact their sales though. Their network upgrades are very good value, with cheap 10Gbps ports and bandwidth upgrades, especially during sales events.
Overall, despite the poor setup experience at the start, I'd say our experience was very good overall. I'd certainly use Reliablesite again for other projects in the future, and would recommend them if your use case matches their offerings.
We've been with Hetzner for years and, while satisfied with the hardware and technical support and infrastructure, quite unhappy with support/sales/abuse departments where it always feels like they're doing one a favor in even answering and often make little effort to actually help.
So my question is if there's any hosting provider to match what they offer? We want to upgrade from our current servers and one type of servers we looked into are https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ax41 which you can get in Germany* for 39 EUR/month (plus 39EUR setup fee) (prices without VAT as we're outside EU). This is a AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Hexa-Core which has a passmark > 17,000 and comes with 64GB RAM and 2 x 512 GB NVMe SSD. When I found something similar with OVH (slightly better CPU, 3600X instead of 3600), it 105 USD per month when committing to 24 months which is more than double.
Another type we were looking at is the https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ax51
Anyway, any matching offers elsewhere? We can probably take some bandwidth limitation and cool with either EU or US locations.
*They have a center in Finland but when I did a bit of research it seemed it offers much worse network connectivity so while 5 EUR cheaper per server, doesn't seem to be worth the risk.
We are renting some servers in hetzner fsn (about 40) in different dcs with 10g connectivity. About 1 or 2 times in month we have network problems. 30 or 40 % of packet loss for one or two minutes.
It always connected to one datacenter . For example we have that problem with 7 servers in dc14 from 13:39:00 till 13:40:30 cest. Contacting support always leads to big works like additional logs, mtr and etc. We are losing a lot of time.
Hetzner support always says that the problem is on our side. But sometimes they propose to free exchange of server or server migration. But they never confirm problem on their side. That's all. We are using very different server configuration from kubernetes on bare metal to hyper-v vms with sql server. Most of our servers are amd epyc ax161.
The problems was really serious in December. We have constant problems (once a day) with all new servers in dc15. We resolved it by relocating servers to dc16 and problem disappeared for some months.
Currently we really don't know what to do. In march we had it 3 times with dc4 and dc13(not sure). Does someone has the problem? Can you advice hosting with great support and not very high prices?
Background
We run a game server hosting company which has been running since 2012. We currently rent roughly 200 dedicated servers from 6 different providers. We currently rent roughly 60 of these dedicated servers from WebNX. We've been with them for just over 7 years and I can safely say that they've been the best datacentre we've used. I know how important reviews are to a company; I feel that we've used WebNX long enough to write an honest review.
Support
We've had our fair share of rubbish support from datacentres in the past. WebNX definitely provides the best support out of all the datacentres we've used. During the past 7 years, I'd say the average response time for a ticket at WebNX was about 10 minutes. We've found the biggest issue with large datacentres is that their support teams are disjointed. This leads to issues which "don't fit the norm" taking a long time to resolve. WebNX is large enough to provide 24/7 365 day support yet small enough to provide genuinely good "straight to the point" support.
Reliability / Uptime
All the datacentres we've used have had some sort of major outage at some point in time. During the 7 years, there have been a couple of network outages at WebNX but the issues have always been resolved quickly along with good communication. Considering the number of servers we have with them, I'd say the uptime is incredibly high.
Hardware
During the past 7 years we've switched our server hardware roughly 4 or 5 times. It's as simple as contacting them letting them know what hardware you like, they provide a reasonably priced quote and in a couple of days, the server is delivered. I'd say on average, broken hardware is resolved in roughly an hour from us opening the ticket.
DDoS Protection
I'd say this is the downside of WebNX. They'll automatically nullroute the IP address if a DDoS attack is detected. The amount of time the IP address is nullrouted depends on how much traffic the attack is sending. It's not really a huge issue for us as we can quickly work out which one of our clients was targeted and then get migrate them over to a DDoS protected IP address. I'm hoping at some stage they'll provide onsite DDoS protection.
Price
They're very reasonably priced considering the support and customisation which they offer.
Network
WebNX's network is top notch. Nothing to complain about at all.
Keep up the great work WebNX! Would be great if you could get another datacentre setup in East Coast USA.
Hello
i have a very heavy website (social network) and services to the world not any special location or country.
i decide to buy hetzner SX servers for client's files but all the hetzner's SX servers are in Helsinki ... im worry about Helsinki because i heard that its network is not good !!!! but all the posts was too old (about 1-2 years ago)
what about now?
is it good option to buy the helsinki servers for global services usage ?
hello,
For about 100eur, i can get managed Hetzner server: hetzner.com/managed-server
OR unmanaged Hetzner server + platinumservermanagement.com/ (or + myw.pt/devops).
What will be a better option?
I have no experience as System Administrator.
I will like to keep the server fast, optimized, and online.
I don't plan to host many websites on the server, I need a server for a couple of large websites.
So optimization of servers for sites is very important to me.
For optimization I mean, cache optimization, database optimization, server optimization for WordPress, etc...
Is anyone have experience with Hetzner managed servers?
Best Regards
please,
any alternative to hetzner in europe? I already have several servers at Hetzner and wanted to have a backup provider.
would have something with dell or hp amd epyc servers with similar prices besides leaseweb?
I am looking for a good server or vps provider except (Hetzner & OVH).
Request:
-Good support
-Good bandwidth:
-Good cost
*Hetzner & OVH: It's really good, but I want to find more powerful new providers to experience the service, and expand the servers in Europe.
Thank you, and leave me some reviews
I'm looking for dedicated servers (6-8 servers) with the following configurations:
CPU i9-9900K
RAM 64GB
SSD 500GB / 1TB
Unmetered network / no limits
Possibility to install my own OS by rescue system
KVM access (if possible)
No setup fees
Collocation Germany
Do you guys know any providers who offers such at a decent price?
I would go on hetzner, but, their setup fees of $670 would kill me
Lets say I had a budget of $40-50 per server, any providers with that range?